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Συμπόσιον summary ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF review ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF Ô Plato read Συμπόσιον The Symposium is a complex piece which is perhaps as widely read as any of Plato's works apart from the Rep. Rating 2 of five all for Aristophanes s way trippy remix of the Book of GenesisWhile perusing a review of Death in Venice dreadful tale yet another fag must die rather than love piece of normative propaganda written by my good friend Stephen he expressed a desire to read The Symposium before he eventually re reads this crapulous homophobic maundering deathless work of art As I have read The Symposium with less than stellar results I warned him off Well see below for what happened next Stephen wrote Damncan you do a uick cliff notes summary or maybe a video lecture I would much rather take advantage of your previous suffering than have to duplicate itTHE SYMPOSIUMSo this boring poet dude wins some big ass prize and has a few buds over for a binge They re all lying around together on couches which is as promising a start to a story as I can think of when the boys decide to stay sober boo and debate the Nature of LuuuvPhaedrus subject of a previous Socratic dialogue by Plato gives a nice little speech dry as a popcorn fart about how Love is the oldest of the gods and Achilles was younger than Patroclus and Alcestis died of love for her husband and some other stuff I don t remember because I was drifting off and so I got up to see if I would stay awake better on the patio It was a little nippy that daySo next up is the lawyer I know right Ask a lawyer to talk about love Like asking a priest to talk about honor or a politician to talk about common decency So he pontificates about pederasty for a while which made me uncomfortable so I got up to get some coffee I may have stopped by the brandy bottle on the way back out I can t recallSo after the lawyer tells us when exactly it s okay for a grown man to pork a teenager the doctor chimes in that luuuuuv is the drug it s everything man the whole uuuuuuuniiiiiveeeeeeeeeerse is luuuuv Who knew they had hippies in those days I needed brandy I mean coffee and the text of my ancient Penguin paperback was getting smaller and smaller for some reason so I went to look for the brandy get the magnifying glass so I could see the footnotesThen comes Aristophanes Now seriously this is a good bit Aristophanes in Plato s world tells us why we feel whole complete when we re with our true love Once upon a time we were all two bodied and two souled beings all male all female or hermaphroditic When these conjoined twins fell into disfavor Zeus cleaved them apart and for all eternity to come those souls will wander the earth seeking the other half torn from usNow being Aristophanes Plato plays it for laughs but this is really the heart of the piece Plato uite clearly thought this one through in terms of what makes us humans want and need love It s a bizarre version of Genesis don cha thinkSo there I was glazed over with brandy fog admiration for the imagination of this ancient Greek boybanger and I was about to give up and pass out take my contemplations indoors when the wind riffling the pages a bit caused me to light on an interesting line I continued with the host s speechNow reallyis there anything on this wide green earth boring than listening to a poet bloviate Especially about luuuuv Blah blah noble blah blah youthful yakkity blah brave snoreThen it s Socrates s turn and I was hoping Plato gave him some good zingers to make up for the tedium of the preceding sixteen years of my life I mean the previous speech It was a little bit hard to hold the magnifying glass for some reason and it kept getting in the way of the brandy bottle I mean coffee thermos COFFEE THERMOSI m not all the way sure what Plato had Socrates say but it wasn t riveting lemme tell ya what I woke up I mean came to ummm that is I resumed full attention when the major studmuffin and hawttie Alcibiades comes in late and drunk and proceeds to pour out his unreuited lust for older uglier Socrates He really gets into the nitty gritty here talking about worming his way into the old dude s bed and still Socrastupid won t play hide the salamiVarious noises of incredulity and derision were heard to come from my mouth I feel sure though I was a little muzzy by that time and it is about this point that the brandy bottle COFFEE THERMOS slid to the ground and needed picking up As I leaned to do so I remember thinking how lovely and soft the bricks lookedWhen I woke up under the glass table top the goddamned magnifying glass had set what remains of the hair on top of my head on fireThe moral of the story is reading The Symposium should never be undertaken while outdoors This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution NonCommercial 30 Unported License

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Συμπόσιον summary ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF review ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF Ô Plato read Συμπόσιον Except the classicist who knows Greek; and they also tend to be light on the dialogue as a work of philosop. The Symposium holds the key to ancient psychology One has but to compare post Freudian psychology s understanding of the drives with Plato s discourse on human longing here in order to measure the distance between the ancient and modern orientations to reality It is strange for us to conceive this in the post Darwinian post Freudian era but Plato genuinely held that the longing to know is the fundamental human drive with sexuality the modern candidate foundational drive being derived therefrom What a different psychology this basic belief reveals And with this alternate psychology Plato reveals an orientation to the world that opens up horizons entirely other to those we are accustomed toPlato has shown a concern for the way that our pre rational orientation to the real feeds into and constrains our capacity to reason already in other dialogues such as The Republic One gets the feeling that the arch rationalist becomes progressively haunted in each dialogue by the realization that what we love determines in advance the direction our rationality can take in its approach to the real Nietzsche commented admiringly on Plato s psychological acumen evinced by his discovery that our strongest longing is the true but hidden master of our reason Already with the Symposium we see that the structure of reasoning crystallizes itself around this primordial pre rational engagement with the real Early on in the dialogue Socrates makes the rather cheeky claim that it is only the genuine philosopher who can understand the real meaning of desire Socrates further proposes to the incredulity of others present that indeed philosophy is somehow connected with the pursuit of the fulfillment of this deepest desire And what better setting could Plato choose to prove the power of Socrates s insight into the human drives than a drinking party Here Socrates proves his superior capacity to harmonize and rein in his whole human capacity for feeling not merely by displaying his superior discursive prowess but also by drinking every last one of his companions under the table by banuet s end The banuet setting thus seems like a mock ordeal which allows Socrates to reveal his deeper mastery over his animal nature It is the depth of his transformation of his pre rational nature that makes him the better philosopherWhat Socrates shows us is that our longing is the hunger for completion awakened by our growing awareness of finitude It is a drive to transcend the boundaries of our finitude through an effort to establish a relationship to a reality that is registered as being complete than that possessed by the finite self Socrates famous speech on the real nature of love in this dialogue attests to the fact that our desire for sexual love is an offshoot of this primordial drive which is part and parcel of the structure of consciousness itself to find our fullest orientation to reality in an act of knowing that relates all that we are to a world which is for the first time experienced as a unity In the growth of our consciousness we first learn to relate body to human body immersing ourselves in the physical continuum of interchanges in a game of self forgetful clinging to outward shadows At this level of self development according to Plato s account of the levels of understanding in the Republic our relation is merely to the shifting outward images of being Because we cannot conceive the unity of things at this level we fall short of that supreme mark of reality which is the knowledge of the unity of things Our love at this level thus remains a game of hide and seek played with ourselves as much as with one another But as the power of our minds grows we cannot fail to realize deeper dimensions of our longing to relate We now come to long for a relationship to the real established on the basis of our most characteristic capacity We long to relate to the world on the level of mind and we find that this relation to the world not only takes us deeper into the heart of the real Our deepest desire is realized in the perception of the world on the level of form This level of perception also takes us deeper into ourselves as well as revealing the true basis for relating to one another Our real community is a communion of mindsSocrates proposition to us is that we are selves and lovers to the extent that we realize our true nature as knowers And we attain realization as selves to the extent that we progress from being driven by our shadow loving sexual love to that comprehensive love in us that is wisdom itself The rest of Plato s philosophy is arguably built on this psychology of self realization Plato s identification through Socrates of Love the Good the Beautiful and the True is really the best definition of the most consummate philosophic vision In our highest reasonings Plato s Socrates claims these four things become one Their union in the actuality of an experience is what we call wisdom the end goal of the whole search that structures our lives from the first awakening of consciousness in infancy Modern philosophy would be different if we operated under the same definition of reason The greatest proof of its power to me is that even Nietzsche who was its most serious critic nonetheless pined for the loss of it It seems that Plato s description of the goal of human development was accurate after all even if it remains only an inescapable regulative ideal for philosophic inuiry without ever becoming a stable humanly realizable realityThis dialogue is worth reading if only for Alcibiades drunkenly revealing speech expressing Socrates effect on those poor souls like himself whom he manages to convert to his way of life Surely there has been no greater portrait of the psychology of a great philosopher anywhere nor of the effect that such a figure inevitably will have on natures less in tune with the original drive to know that structures human nature But Alcibiades nonetheless proves himself to be Socrates truest disciple even as he expresses his frustration at his inability read unwillingness to follow him to the end Alcibiades poignantly shows what s in store for all of us as soon as we start to take this gig seriously the way that Socrates represents will cleave us into two warring parts so that we become strangers to our old desires and attachments and strangers in the world awaiting a new birth

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Συμπόσιον summary ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF review ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF Ô Plato read Συμπόσιον Ublic However the existing standard commentaries in English do not offer much by way of help to any reader. OPRAH Good evening and welcome to What s the Most Spiritual Book of All Time For people who missed last week s exciting semi final round The Sermon on the Mount beat The Bhagavad Gita 4 1 while Jonathan Livingston Seagull unexpectedly lost 3 2 to outsider The Symposium Let s all welcome our finalists Applause Enter JESUS CHRIST and SOCRATES both wearing tuxedos They shake hands More applauseOPRAH And now let me introduce our jury I m thrilled to have with us living legend Paul McCartney world famous novelist EL James the beautiful and talented Lindsay Lohan controversial scientist Richard Dawkins and ever popular hockey mom Sarah Palin The crowd goes wild with some people clapping and others booing It s impossible to make out a word anyone saysOPRAH Thank you thank you thank you I m just going to remind you of the rules before we start Each member of the jury gives us a short speech and then we count up the votes to see who our lucky winner is Over to you PaulMCCARTNEY Thank you Oprah Well I look at our two finalists and you know what I m thinking I m thinking they won that special place they have in our hearts because they told us about Love And I remember back in 1966 when John gave that interview where he said no offense intended we re popular than Jesus JESUS holds up a hand to show he s cool They gave John a hard time about that but all he wanted to say was that even though Jesus had shown us the power of Love maybe at that exact moment in history we could do a better job of bringing it to the people and telling them all how amazing Love is Because it is amazing isn t it He takes out a guitarPerhaps some of you remember this song we wroteThere s nothing you can do that can t be doneNothing you can sing that can t be sungNothing you can say but you can learn how to play the gameIt s easyNothing you can make that can t be madeNo one you can save that can t be savedNothing you can do but you can learn how to be you in timeIt s easyAll you need is love OPRAH That s wonderful Paul but who are you voting forMCCARTNEY Oh er well if John were here I think he d want me to vote for The Symposium He was always had a thing for Socrates George too Yes Socrates it is Applause The scoreboard shows 1 0 SOCRATES looks a little embarrassed while JESUS curiously examines MCCARTNEY s guitarOPRAH That s terrific Paul beautiful beautiful song Really takes me back So Socrates is in the lead but it s early days yet Your turn ErikaJAMES Good evening and I m thrilled to be here Now I m sure some of you have read the Fifty Shades books and I believe a lot of people misunderstand them It s easy just to think about the sex and the glitz and the limos and the handcuffs and the blindfolds and the whips and the OPRAH I m not uite sure what you re trying to say here ErikaJAMES Just let me finish Oprah What most people don t realize is that these books aren t about sex they re about Love They re a spiritual journey where Ana has to help Christian have you ever wondered why he s called Christian find himself and discover the difference between empty eroticism and the redeeming power of OPRAH I m afraid I m going to have to cut you off there Erika You ll have to tell us now who you re voting forJAMES Well Jesus of course Really Fifty Shades is an allegory a modern version of Dante s OPRAH That s incredibly interesting Erika and I wish we had time to talk about it But now the score s 1 1 and we re moving on to our third member of the jury Your turn LindsayLOHAN Thank you everyone and I d particularly like to thank my parole officer for allowing me to join you tonight She said it d be good for me Laughter applause So yeah Love To me love s about trying to find my soulmate I bet there s plenty of you people who feel the same way I do there s someone out there who s like the other half of me and I have to find that person to be complete You know And it s really hard to guess who that person is maybe it s a guy like you know maybe Justin or Ashton or Zac or Ryan and we were once this person who was half a man and half a woman and we got split apart or maybe it s a woman like maybe Sam or OPRAH Lindsay that s such a moving thought but we ve got to watch the clock Who are you voting forLOHAN Well duh Socrates of course It s all there in the Symposium The Aristophanes speech I must have read it a million timesOPRAH Lindsay thank you so much and I really hope you find your soulmate one day You just need to keep looking So Socrates has taken a 2 1 lead and we re going over to our next speaker RichardDAWKINS Ah yes Now I ve been sitting here listening to all of you and I ve enjoyed your contributions but I m a scientist and I ve got to think about things in a scientific way When I think about love as a scientist all I ultimately see is tropisms and feedback loops An organism feels a lack of something it could be as simple as an E coli needing an essential nutrient and it does what it can to get it Love is just the concrete expression of that negative feedback loop There s nothing OPRAH This all sounds like Socrates s speech I take it you re voting for him thenDAWKINS What Oh no no not at all Jesus every time He takes off his jacket revealing a T shirt that says ATHEISTS FOR JESUS I can t stand Platonic forms and all that mystical nonsense Jesus now there s a straightforward plain speaking person with solid humanist values Just a shame he got mixed up with the religion business Boos catcalls some scattered clapping The scoreboard shows 2 2OPRAH Er right Always ready to surprise us Richard So it s up to Sarah to cast the deciding vote Over to you SarahPALIN Well Oprah I m afraid I m not as imaginative as Richard I m just a regular small town girl with regular small town values and I was brought up readin the Sermon on the Mount Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness sake blessed are ye when men shall revile you smaller government lower taxes support Israel no to OPRAH Is that all in the Sermon on the Mount SarahPALIN Maybe not in those exact words But it s there And you can bet your boots I m not votin for a liberal type who hangs around with a bunch of guys what re openly tryin to get into his JESUS and SOCRATES exchange puzzled glancesPALIN Anyways I m votin for JesusOPRAH Ah thank you Sarah Forthright as ever So that s 3 2 to The Sermon on the Mount but well done The Symposium you were so close And thank you everyone particularly Socrates and Mr Christ for an amazing and deeply spiritual experience it s been incredible meeting you all thank you again and we ll be back next week Credits theme music


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    review ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF Ô Plato [E–pub/Pdf] Συμπόσιον Author Plato Plato Ô 8 read & download Rating 2 of five all for Aristophanes's way trippy remix of the Book of GenesisWhile perusing a review of Death in Venice dreadful

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    read Συμπόσιον [E–pub/Pdf] Συμπόσιον Author Plato OPRAH Good evening and welcome to What's the Most Spiritual Book of All Time? For people who missed last week's exciting semi final round The Sermon on the Mount beat The Bhagavad Gita 4 1 while Jonathan Livingston Seagull unexpectedly lost 3 2 to outsider The Symposium Let's all welcome our finalists Applause Enter JESUS CHRIST and SOCRATES both wearing tuxedos They shake hands More applauseOPRAH And now let me introduce our jury

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    [E–pub/Pdf] Συμπόσιον Author Plato Plato Ô 8 read & download “It’s been less than three years that I’ve been Socrates’ companion and made it my job to know exactly what he says and does each day Before that I simply drifted aimlessly Of course I used to think that what I was doing was important but in fact I was the most worthless man on earth—as bad as you are this very moment I used to think philosophy was the last thing a man should do” In Praise of Love An Encore This is a d

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    Plato Ô 8 read & download review ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF Ô Plato read Συμπόσιον In this book Socrates argues that it is not always a good idea to have sex with boys and Aristophanes explains we were once co joined creatures of three sexes either malefemale malemale or femalefemale and were shaped like balls How could anyone not find this a book worth reading?

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    [E–pub/Pdf] Συμπόσιον Author Plato Plato Ô 8 read & download review ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF Ô Plato It has been a long time since I first read The Symposium That was back in university in my freshman year course Sexuality in Literature I admit I found it all a bit shocking the open tolerance of sexual relationships betwee

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    [E–pub/Pdf] Συμπόσιον Author Plato Plato Ô 8 read & download The Symposium holds the key to ancient psychology One has but to compare post Freudian psychology's understanding of the drives with Plato's discourse on human longing here in order to measure the distance between the ancient and modern orientations to reality It is strange for us to conceive this in the post Darwinian pos

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    [E–pub/Pdf] Συμπόσιον Author Plato Plato Ô 8 read & download review ´ eBook, ePUB or Kindle PDF Ô Plato I Never Met a Physician Who Wasn’t Descended from a GreekThis might just be the work that put the meta at least the metafiction in metaphysicsPlato’s name is attached to it but its principal focus is Socrates And guess what? Socrates does

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    read Συμπόσιον Plato Ô 8 read & download [E–pub/Pdf] Συμπόσιον Author Plato I'm glad I chose this translation by Robin Waterfield and this publisher Oxford World's Classic the introduction is of great help and the text flows easily and is very understandable and doesn't feel stiff and suchThis book's subject is a series of speeches praising Love both of sexual and of mind kind; the former producing sometim

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